Subscribe to:
Post Comments (Atom)
skip to main |
skip to sidebar
News and Views on what is happening in both the Central College Hockey Association and Western Collegiate Hockey Association. Please email any questions/comments/information to westerncollegehockey@gmail.com
College Hockey Websites
- College Hockey News
- CSTV's College Hockey Page
- US College Hockey Online
- Chris Heisenberg's List of 2009 Recruits
- Illegal Curve(NHL + Prospects)
- CHN's College Hockey Blog(All of College Hockey
- Inside College Hockey.com
- Chris Heisenberg's NCAA Hockey Recruits
- 60 Minutes, No Alibis, No Regrets (Wisconsin)
- Miami University Hockey
- USHL Hockey Blog
- Bronco Hockey Blog(WMU)
- UAA Hockey Blog(Anchorage)
- GF Herald Sioux Hockey Blog(No. Dak.)
- Let's Go DU(Denver)
- Mankato Free Press Hockey Blog
- Duluth News-Tribune Hockey Blog
- Goon's World(North Dakota)
- Puck Swami's Know Your Foe
- Runnin' with the Dogs(UMD)
- LSSU Hockey(Lake Superior)
- The Wisconsin Hockey Blog
- GopherBlog(Minnesota)
- Tech Hockey Blog(Mich. Tech)
- Mav Hockey Nation(Mankato)
- Hockey in Wisconsin
- The Blog that Yost Built(Michigan)
- Kevin Allenspach's Hockey Blog(St. Cloud)
- Hockey in Colorado(Denver-ish)
- Clarkson Hockey Fan Blog
- 2006 Recruit Star Rankings
- 2007 Top Prospects
- 2008 Top Prospects
- 2009 Top Prospects
- 2010 Top Prospects
- 2011 Top Prospects
- Badgermaniac's Drop the Puck Board(Wisc.)
- MavPuck(Nebraska-Omaha)
- Gopher Puck Live(Minnesota)
- Michigan Hockey Net(Michigan)
- Sioux Sports(North Dakota)
- Mitch's Misfits(Michigan Tech)
- Da Huskies Hangout(St. Cloud State)
- tUMD Penalty Box(Minnesota-Duluth)
Blog Archive
Labels
- ...ladies? (3)
- air force (2)
- alaska (55)
- alaska-anchorage (25)
- alums (14)
- army (1)
- bemidji state (7)
- bowling green (27)
- ccha (37)
- chl (1)
- coaching (33)
- colorado college (38)
- conference realignment (11)
- dean blais (4)
- denver (55)
- early depatures (98)
- expansion (1)
- ferris state (17)
- game coverage (20)
- game preview (30)
- game recaps (32)
- high school hockey (76)
- hobey baker (27)
- hockey history (13)
- international hockey (8)
- junior hockey (49)
- lake superior (23)
- linkorama (111)
- media (2)
- miami (25)
- michigan (83)
- michigan state (49)
- michigan tech (27)
- minnesota (99)
- minnesota state (55)
- minnesota-duluth (48)
- ncaa tournament (72)
- ncaa vs. chl (40)
- nebraska-omaha (31)
- nhl (22)
- nhl draft (54)
- north dakota (56)
- northern michigan (27)
- notre dame (55)
- ntdp (24)
- ohio state (24)
- outdoor hockey (3)
- recruiting (312)
- rule changes (6)
- select tournaments (10)
- st. cloud (52)
- statistics (29)
- ushl (19)
- wcha (36)
- wcha officials (14)
- western michigan (24)
- what does the office have to do with hockey? (13)
- whimsy (28)
- wisconsin (59)
- world juniors (18)
- youtube (6)
20 comments:
Ouch!!! Is this a down year for the NCAA or what????
Hope next year will be better.
This is a great message to all the American kids who fixate on making the NTDP, that the guys running the program are knuckleheads when it comes to selecting their teams and developing players, and that being on the NTDP has little or nothing to do with being drafted high to the NHL.
Bogosian, Carlson, Gardiner, McCollum, Ness, and Wahl are all 1990 birthdates who were either passed over by the NTDP or who turned them down and are projected to go in the top three rounds of the NHL draft while the only 1990 birthdate from the NTDP projected to go in the top three rounds is Kristo.
The time has come for USA Hockey to disband the NTDP and use the millions of dollars spent each year on the program to financially strengthen the USHL.r
Not a down year at all. NCAA guys are usually older that's why many don't get picked directly from NCAA schools but rather from the feeder leagues.
Drafting is all about potential, many a draft pick goes on to do squat in the NHL.
I am not finding the guys in the "feeder" leagues you are referring to, other than 1 kid from the BCHL (whose stock dropped like Enron over the course of this year).
The word is out about the NTDP. They are now having more kids decline than accept. It wasn't too long ago that it was the prize...now if you want to develop, you go to the O, W, or Q...or even stay on your prep or junior team. Heck, Ness stayed at a public and gets more looks than any other NTDP defenseman. The NTDP is over.
12:39 maybe you should get the $hit out of your eyes. Just skimming through it I saw guys from the AJHL, BCHL, OPHJL, USHL, and U.S. high schools in the top 60. I guess CHL grads just can't comprehend reading. Why I am not suprised.
Anon 12:39 -
I found 18 guys on the list who didn't play in the CHL or Europe last year (2 of those are already in the NCAA). What exactly is your definition of "feeder leagues" if not the USHL, AJHL, OPJHA, high school, NTDP, etc? I know they're not all going to college but the feeder leagues seem to be doing their part.
"the only 1990 birthdate from the NTDP projected to go in the top three rounds is Kristo."
WRONG!!! Schroeder is a 1990 and is projected in the first round, you'll just have to excuse the fact that he was born after the cutoff date. In fact, the NTDP's U18 top scorer has gone in the first round of the draft going back to 2005 (Kessel-87, Kane-88, Van Riemsdyk-89). Schroder will probably keep the trend going for the 1990's, and Morin will probably keep the trend going for the 1991's. The message is, being the leading scorer for the NTDP is a FANTASTIC indicator that you'll be picked high in the NHL draft.
This is a great message to all the American kids who fixate on making the NTDP, that the guys running the program are knuckleheads when it comes to selecting their teams and developing players, and that being on the NTDP has little or nothing to do with being drafted high to the NHL.
Bogosian, Carlson, Gardiner, McCollum, Ness, and Wahl are all 1990 birthdates who were either passed over by the NTDP or who turned them down and are projected to go in the top three rounds of the NHL draft while the only 1990 birthdate from the NTDP projected to go in the top three rounds is Kristo.
The time has come for USA Hockey to disband the NTDP and use the millions of dollars spent each year on the program to financially strengthen the USHL.r
Totally agree with this statement!! Alot of NTDP players end up in the USHL now anyway. Why not put that money to good use and strengthen the league. Give other players a chance to represent their country...they may have stronger results. The NTDP seems to be declining as far as success stories and world competition.
"WRONG!!! Schroeder is a 1990 and is projected in the first round, you'll just have to excuse the fact that he was born after the cutoff date. In fact, the NTDP's U18 top scorer has gone in the first round of the draft going back to 2005 (Kessel-87, Kane-88, Van Riemsdyk-89). Schroder will probably keep the trend going for the 1990's, and Morin will probably keep the trend going for the 1991's. The message is, being the leading scorer for the NTDP is a FANTASTIC indicator that you'll be picked high in the NHL draft."
First we are talking about the 2008 NHL draft rankings not 2009 so forget about Schroeder.
Second, I would certainly hope that the "Top Scorer" for the United States National Development Team who is supposedly the best forward of all the best forwards in the entire United States would be good enough to be selected in the first round of the NHL draft. LOL
I was the original poster who said it seems like a down year for the NCAA. What I should have said was it is a down year for NCAA bound players, as numbers drafted from the NCAA has gone down significantly over the past several years but this was fortunately off set by an increasing number of college bound players who were drafted from the prep, highschools and Junior leagues. This year, however, seems like a real off year.
Last year there were 10 college bound players ranked in the first round by CSB. This year, we will be lucky to see 4 college bound players drafted in the first round.....so yes it is a real down year for the NCAA.
So your saying the NTDP is bad due to 1 down year? Its one year and its a great program that not only develops player for Hockey but for LIFE also. Hockey isn't always going to be there for these young men
Yes, ask those truck driving CHL'ers. Someone please get the message, it doesn't matter where you play, the big boys will find you. And make sure your life is well rounded and educated.
The NCAA gives you that option.
The NTDP's record for developing top end talent is outstanding. The kids that go through it will continue to represent their country well internationally, in the NCAA and a few onto the NHL. 3overall number one picks in the last 7 years isn't so bad. Over 40NTDP alums played in the NHL last year. The US has never been represented that well prior to the formation of the NTDP!
Anon 8:47 - As far as developing men for life you have heard about the NTDP grad who has had all the legal trouble in the Twin Cities? I could list other examples. All I am saying is that there isn't a good argument for the NTDP except for hockey. Chances are your kid will get the same or better life skills at home or anywhere else.
It's one bad year right now. Check in next year...the results will be no better and you will see it is the start of a trend.
Develop for life???
The U17 Team was in school for 6 days in November??? How is that for development??
They are know having any new players sign a contract with a $50,000.00 buyout??? So, if they running a bad program, and someone wants out, cha ching!
3:11 so it was NTDP or his billets that caused a kid to go wrong? hardly, and just look at issues in the OHL or USHL, in the papers all the time. Kids make choices, and none of the organizations has anything to do with it. And the knucklehead that wishes kids were in school more, every travel team including the CHL and USHL has school issues. You don't see NTDP kids failing, but on the contrary, held to high standards with discipline for below norm GPA.
I think there is tremendous jealousy for a fine development model, and if there are knucklheads running it, what are all the others who claim to be GM's, leaders and mentors? Don't throw stones too far.
This conversation shows the intelligence level of people commenting on this site.
The NTDP only has had the last two No. 1 overall picks... not to mention it went 1-2 last year.
Top scorers, #1 and #2 overall picks? Who cares!!
Any player that good would be drafted in the top half of the first round if they played midget major until they were 18.
The bashing of the "knuckleheads" (perfect term) who run the NTDP is completely justified. You cant use the top 1 or 2 players in a draft year to justify your success. The depth of the draft and player production is the key.
Only 4 players on average making it to the NHL each year out of 22 from each NTDP class is nothing to brag about. Even the team success if not that great with only one World Junior Championship? Remember these guys have the choice of all the top players in the entire country to work with.
Millions of dollars being spent on developing 4 players to play in the NHL each year? That money could be better spent elsewhere by USA Hockey.
Post a Comment